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MSNBC
Jan 2, 2013 7:00pm PST
majority eric cantor expressed his opposition to the senate bill before boehner had taken a stand, when the majority leader said out loud what most republicans were thinking about the fiscal cliff bill. there was admiration, the leaks were out, they wondered if a cantor brew was happening. so the rumors, just completely out of control. we'll know soon enough, the house elections thursday. >> yeah, we will know soon enough. and it was also interesting not only on the fiscal cliff deal. but with sandy relief, cantor went and through them right under the bus. cantor is worried about his position and the donors he has in the new york and new jersey area. it is interesting how quickly he brought the long knives out. i don't think that cantor will organize a coup for this week, personally, partly because anyone who is speaker of the house has to deal with the basic dynamics that john boehner is dealing with. and that is not particularly an attractive position for somebody to be in right now. >> there is fox news -- there is o'reilly and krauthammer, bringing them down even further, sayi
MSNBC
Jan 3, 2013 9:00am PST
boehner, and those are, of course, eric cantor, who is supposedly his deputy, and the supposed vote counter, the whip, kevin mccarthy, both of whom voted against john boehner's big compromise, and just really quick just to read you what one person has said about these guys, and this would be eric harrison, who is himself a conservative. this is aircraft aircraftson's take on cantor homeland mccarthy, and he says look for further than eric cantor and kevin mccarthy voting no on the plan. they should not be commended for voting no. this is a sign of disarray. for those who think the gop will get its act together come the debt ceiling fight, all signs point to fractures still at the top of the house with cantor and mccarthy working at cross purposes to the speaker. is disloyalty the biggest problem? >> eric erickson is exactly right. during a meeting that newly minted at the time house minority leader nancy pelosi had in about march of -- >> hold on one second. i'll have you hold that thought. tammy baldwin is being sworn in right now. she is the democratic senator from wisconsin. she
MSNBC
Jan 3, 2013 1:00pm PST
of republican defections included votes for majority leader eric cantor and for now former and infamous congressman alan west. but they were not enough to stop mr. boehner from getting his hands on the gavel once again. >> this covenant makes us servants of posterity. we're sent here not to be something, but to do something. [ applause ] >> yes, mr. boehner's signature tears flowed and who can blame him? ever all, the man has just had the privilege of leading the most loathed and least productive congress in modern history. having accomplished almost nothing, the to-do list greeting the new congress includes gun control, immigration, the sequester, the debt limit, the farm bill, hurricane sandy relief, the filibuster, and the violence against women act, all items left unresolved by the last congress. but if there is much to do and much republican opposition to doing it, at least speaker boehner can take heart that expectations are firmly in the gutter. the columnist gail collins writes in today's "new york times," the bar is low since some people believe the departing 112th con
MSNBC
Jan 2, 2013 3:00pm PST
this politics. >> and the gop crack up is boehner's number two. eric cantor, is he planning to take his job? plus, good news about hillary clinton today. but i want to know when the right will apologize for their deplorable behavior about her health. you're watching politics nation on msnbc. [ male announcer ] where do you turn for legal matters? at legalzoom, we've created a better place to handle your legal needs. maybe you have questions about incorporating a business you'd like to start. or questions about protecting your family with a will or living trust. and you'd like to find the right attorney to help guide you along, answer any questions and offer advice. with an "a" rating from the better business bureau legalzoom helps you get personalized and affordable legal protection. in most states, a legal plan attorney is available with every personalized document to answer any questions. get started at legalzoom.com today. and now you're protected. hi victor! mom? i know you got to go in a minute but this is a real quick meal, that's perfect for two! campbell's chunky beef with c
MSNBC
Jan 2, 2013 6:00am PST
. >> speaker john boehner voted for the deal, breaking the republican leaders eric cantor of virginia and kevin mccarthy of california who voted against. paul ryan joined speaker boehner, voting for the bill. after the vote, president obama tried to set the terms for the fiscal fights ahead in a rare late-night appearance with joe biden by his side in the briefing room. >> the one thing that i think hopefully in the new year we'll focus on is seeing if we can put a package like this together, with a little bit less drama, a little less brinksmanship, not scare the heck out of folks quite as much. >> but republicans are already looking ahead to another budget showdown in late february. that's when the temporary delay on domestic and military spending cuts expires and when congress must raise the $16.4 trillion debt ceiling limit to avoid default. >> save your powder for the debt ceiling fight. we have leverage at the debt ceiling to make this president face up to the fact that we're spending our way into oblivion. >> last night, the president warned republicans not to use the debt ceil
MSNBC
Jan 3, 2013 6:00am PST
, congressman eric cantor. when cantor decided to share with christie his version of what happened to sandy relief, we all want to know, did cantor know that christie would go public with that version of events? remember all those stories about cantor and boehner becoming closer? so much for that. new york republicans, michael grimm and peter king first suggested wednesday they might actually abstain for voting for boehner as speaker. but what a difference 24 hours makes. after the political storm broke out, boehner rushed to meet with the delegation and made a pledge that the newly sworn-in congress will vote on the $9 billion in flood insurance relief on friday, and that in two weeks, consider the much larger part of the sandy aid package, a $50 billion aid package, if you will. that 24 hours. here's congressman peter king then and then here's congressman peter king now. >> republicans have no trouble finding new york when it comes to raising money. and i would say anyone from new york or new jersey who contributes one penny to congressional republicans after this should have their
MSNBC
Jan 2, 2013 2:30am PST
who voted in favor of the bill. eric cantor and kevin mccarthy joined the majority of their party in voting no. boehner did find support from one key republican, paul ryan of wisconsin also voted yes. the main sticking point for republicans, a lack of spending cuts. hours before last night's votes, republicans considered trying to amend the bill from the senate and add additional spending cuts in. the senate made it clear they had no intention of revisiting this idea. so if changes were made that would essentially kill it. before the vote, republicans took to the floor and voiced their concerns. >> there are no spending cuts. we're adding $4 billion a day to the debt. the senate failed in cutting spending. >> i thought we were in a deficit crisis. i thought families were put at risk by this massive debt. what does this do about that? >> it was way past those senators bedtimes, they were blurry eyed when they were reading it we are trying to fill in the gap for where they missed a few things. >> i think it's unreasonable for senator reid to say something they produced on new your's ev
MSNBC
Jan 2, 2013 11:00pm PST
in favor of the fiscal cliff deal. speaker boehner wanted it past but eric cantor was against it. it turns out the tension goes a lot farther back for two other members of the caucus. it starts with darrell issa who voted against the fiscal cliff. >> i'm with eric cantor. i can't vote for it in its current form. the senate and the president and vice president failed to meet their obligation. their own stated obligation which was to bring us a balanced bill. one that had tax adjustment, yes. but also had spending cuts. this one fails at that and fails badly. >> so enter ohio republican steve latourette who wasn't jazzed but took the plunge and voted yes. >> i went to the same high school as congressman issa but we haven't agreed on much since. >> did you agree in high school? >> i didn't see him a lot in class, so i don't know. >> somehow i doubt they'll show up together at the reunion. one point of agreement, both congressmen suggested that new year's eve was partially to blame for what the senate put together. >> i think it's a little unreasonable for senator reid to say something t
MSNBC
Dec 27, 2012 2:00pm PST
offer and then who do i check with in my own republican land? i go to eric cantor and he tells me what? >> he already has this covered, to boehner's great credit. he brought paul ryan in, eric cantor in, mccarthy in who might be the one -- >> the guy from california. >> yeah. and he brought them all in on this plan "b" and all on the negotiations. so he's covered there. he needs mcconnell. if he can get mcconnell and a couple senate republicans, then -- >> what about the body of 40 or so tea partiers who are holdouts. how does he reach them? the ones necessary for any kind of majority? >> he doesn't necessarily need them. if he can get senate republicans, then -- >> is that his game right now to go around his hard core right? >> it is. because then the hard core right isn't just blaming john boehner for all the troubles of the world. they're also -- >> can he allow the house of representatives to work its will with the minority of republicans? >> yes, he can. >> glen, is this your view? if we get a sol lux next week it's probably because a speaker allows a minority of republicans,
MSNBC
Jan 2, 2013 9:00am PST
, voted no, including majority leader eric cantor and republican whip kevin mccarthy. at the end of the day, enough lawmakers across the aisle agreed to the deal, but at a cost of extremely strained relationships. politico reports on an encounter between speaker boehner and harry reid in the white house lobby. go [ bleep ] yourself, boehner sniped, as he pointed his finger at reid, according to multiple sources present. speaker boehner refused to bring forward a bill funding emergency aid for victims of superstorm sandy. this is how republican peter king responded this morning. >> john boehner has been personally helpful over the years, so it pains me to say this, but the fact is, the dismissive attitude that was shown last night towards new york, new jersey, connecticut, typifies, i believe, a strain in the republican party. we cannot believe that this cruel knife in the back was delivered to our region. >> now, unfortunately, these leaders will still need to work together, and soon. with one deadline down last night, the president has already begun positioning himself for the next fig
MSNBC
Jan 3, 2013 10:00am PST
vote for labrador from idaho. one vote for eric cantor. it's not coalessed. john boehner for all the discomfort with him, that's clear within some conservative circles, the guy is going to be the speaker of the house. it's remarkable that conservatives couldn't unite even a little bit more as a show of force. >> i still believe the only person -- if he somehow expressed an interest, you would see the committee chairs, you would see a flocking. >> does this -- the question you have to be watching now is how this weakens or stretens his hand going into negotiations on the fiscal cliff -- not that, the debt ceiling. that remains to be seen. we'll have to leave it there. >> i guess. >> because -- >> i normally love to stay. i have to say that there's a bitter feeling. i love the first day of school, which i call the first day of congress. >> i would love to be up there myself. >> there's something the way the 112th ended. >> doesn't give you a good feeling. >> i just -- you wish -- this should be a happier day in celebrating washington. >> we still congratulate those members that are swo
MSNBC
Dec 27, 2012 11:00pm PST
speakership looking over his shoulder as the camera shows of eric cantor right behind him ready -- >> but cantor is with him now, isn't he? hasn't his number two guy joined him? >> he's his number two guy and supporter, but he's the spiritual leader of the tea party caucus there, and that's the group that seems to be calling the shots right now in the house of representatives. >> let's talk about the republican party. let's try to be really analytical here. you know, to me two things happen in every election. one, somebody wins, somebody loses, and then there's the other part of every election, a signal is sent, which way the country wants to go. it's a verdict that goes out to the people who got re-elected. careful, buddy, careful, lady, you could be next. isn't there a sense in the republican party that obama won a comfortable re-election? >> yeah but -- >> yeah but. >> that was boehner's mistake. >> he thought that was reality. >> he thought that was reality, and he learned the other night that it wasn't. >> republicans don't see it in that world. what covers the sky in their
MSNBC
Jan 2, 2013 1:00pm PST
noticed eric cantor voted against the speaker's deal with the president. are there republicans who want to see him oust mr. boehner from the speaker's chair as well? >> well, martin, i always like to save some breaking news for you when i come on. >> i'm grateful to you for that. >> i have huge breaking news tonight. there are serious rumors that at the conference tonight at 5:00 john boehner will announce that he's resigning as speaker of the house. there are multiple senior sources that i have talked to tonight that have said that this is going to happen. >> ron, i wouldn't wish to question your sanity, but i find that very hard to believe. >> i know. listen, i find it hard to believe. i was put at a one in four chance today we'd be able to kick him out today. there are a serious group of members thinking about it. >> do they have someone as an alternative in mind. >> eric cantor is probably the one. >> is this a coup? >> i don't have any evidence. >> you have to put evidence forward. you put forth a rumor. sub shans -- substantiate it. >> -- the first business of order tomorrow.
MSNBC
Dec 30, 2012 4:00am PST
saying. his deputies, eric cantor, mccarthy, were both there when plan b was introduced and failed to be introduced. so the logical successors weren't there. >> so paul ryan is the person who has the support of the house of speakers. those who don't like boehner, don't love boehner, they love paul ryan. he was whipping plan b. so paul ryan, probably the most high-profile guy who could be a consensus candidate getz boehner. he's not running against barren. he's not even interesting. >> if the president get this through, and it i know it's a big if -- he has to know goes yags. >> you're always going to have to include john boehner. he's speaker of the house. i think you're making a fair point that the power of house republicans to drive the debate is being underquestioned right now. people are going to look to this experience as to how john bane err may or may not be able to drive this discussion. >> sam, on this kind of deal, there's always last-minute horse trading. things get thrown on the paper and the base finds out and gets upset. what gets him upset when he's trying to get it done b
MSNBC
Jan 2, 2013 8:00am PST
, house speaker john boehner voted for the plan, majority leader eric cantor voted against it, as did kevin mccarthy, his chief whip. does that send a message to the chuckle head as your colleague said? if boehner and cantor is split, there's no reason we can't oppose the big deal? >> i'm proud of the speaker. he knew what needed to be done. he provided the cover for us to do, let the conference work its will. leadership is about leading and i think he did that. in the fights ahead of us, we're going to be awfully unified. there's no any difference in the ranks in terms of cutting spending and entitlements. i think the president played his best card in the opening round of the poker game last night. he's not going to get that one again. the revenue questions are over. it's all about spending and entitlement cuts. we'll seep how brave he is whether it comes to dealing with his party. >> do you think the leadership style by boehner is effective, though, to let your house caucus vent? it's almost the prodigal son, right? can you do that with a debt limit deal that could send the entire w
MSNBC
Jan 1, 2013 8:00am PST
districts and are always worried about a primary challenger. speaker boehner, eric cantor have not been overly supportive so far. they reserve the right to amend it. there are three options. we could all hold hands and jump off into the deep end together. that would be the house republican conference approving of this bill, at least enough of them joining the democrats to move it forward. you could also see house republicans try to amend it. that's what tom cole is talking about on your air. he doesn't think that would happen and doesn't want that to happen but it certainly is a possibility if some conservative house republicans say we don't like this part of the deal let's send it back over to the senate. that puts us in sort of a chaos with so little time. today is a free day. the markets close. what happens tomorrow if there is still not a fiscal deal in place? lastly if there is an all out rejection all bets are off, we're jumping over the fiscal cliff. it is up to john boehner to gauge how his conference is going to react to this bill and from folks i've talked to there is a little
MSNBC
Dec 27, 2012 1:00pm PST
sunday. eric cantor told them to be prepared to be in session through january 2nd. so remember yesterday we talked about optics, how bad it was for them to look like they weren't going to be in washington, d.c. they no longer have that problem. john boehner, one member who is on that conference call earlier today, told me, he said we're going to see what the senate has to do and what they will give us. he also made clear that he would not be comfortable putting a bill on the floor that would need all democratic votes to pass and only a handful of republicans. meaning as of right now, john boehner is sticking by the hastert rule. that's very significant because he feels that maybe they get something large scale if they can get a lot of republicans or this is just all for show to show the american people they're still there to the end. >> hold on. 6:30 on sunday? i mean, as harry reid pointed out, that's 48 hours. i mean, in terms of the optics and as you said, it's conference calls and no real details coming from the house republicans on what it is they would accept as harry rei
MSNBC
Dec 31, 2012 7:00am PST
. where are you going to find 40 republican house members who are willing to vote for something? if eric cantor and john bainer and kevin mccarthy don't like it, who is going to buck leadership and vote with democrats on something like this? he said, if there is at least lukewarm support from republican leaders you're likely to see more than 40 house republicans vote for it and it should pass pretty easily. then of course there is the question of are there democrats, perhaps the more liberal members of their caucus, who don't like this either? because you're going to essentially need every single democrat to vote for this and many who have said they don't like this deal. >> that would bring us to what our mike viqueira calls the inertia scenario where they decide the best thing is to go over the fiscal cliff. the democrats for some of them from their perspective it is not a bad thing because they think they have the upper hand in public opinion and also that it basically assures the elimination of bush tax cuts. on the republican side it does the same thing but then they can say, i didn'
MSNBC
Jan 3, 2013 8:00am PST
a joint statement with eric cantor, saying getting critical aid to victims of hurricane sandy should be the first priority in the enough congress. and he scheduled two votes on sandy relief bills, the first set for tomorrow, the second for january 15th. >>in i wa ii iin i want to go b word. how can you vote for a speak who are has a dismissive and cavalier attitude toward your people? >> john boehner made the right decision and he agreed to put it on the calendar. if we're going to carry grudges the rest of our lives, we'll never get anything done. >> jerry nadler took to the floor yesterday to blast the speaker on sandy relief. as governor christie says, october 29th has been a long time ago. 66 days. house speaker boehner has scheduled that vote tomorrow for $15 billion, followed by a vote january 15th for the remaining $51 billion requested. this first vote is expected to pass. any guarantee boehner will be able to corral his members to pass the second part? >> there's no guarantee. we certainly hope so. the idea of splitting the vote originally into the $27 billion, which
MSNBC
Jan 1, 2013 7:00am PST
half ago during the debt ceiling debate where house majority leader eric cantor acted up and acted as spokesman for the farther right wing of the caucus, but i think here there's not a lot of suggestions that his speakership could go down but i think it is important for john boehner to reestablish the idea he is somewhat in control of his membership and that they trust him and that he is the leader here. he sort of allowed the senate to take over here really sort of gave up in some ways a few days ago and said, hey. you guys come up with something and bring it back to us. so i think there is a lot of pressure and there is going to be a lot of calling, cajoling, and making sure that this thing is going to get the votes, at least enough of a combination of democrat and republican votes later today. >> jill, this has been billed as a compromise. what did each side get and have to give with this bill and can either side claim victory here? >> well, i think both sides can claim victory but also both sides lost on certain respects. president obama obviously for five, six years he's been tal
MSNBC
Jan 2, 2013 10:00am PST
file guy and john boehner said, hey, i need you. you can go back and say, yeah, but eric cantor didn't vote what you needed him on, why do you need me? it's going to be interesting to see how it moves forward, and i think boehner needs to draw a hard line against president obama, because he needs to assert his leadership here in a big, powerful way. >> i want to talk to you in a moment about sandy, but first to kelly, because they failed to do anything on the relief for sandy victims. kelly, what does it say about this congress as at noon today went out of power, the congress has gone or noon tomorrow, rather, goes out of power. the congress is gone, it's over, it's the worst on record, and now they didn't do anything for the relief of the real victims of hurricane sandy. >> this is so politically damaging, because the expectation was that the house would act. the senate did, they put together a package worth $60.4 billion. there had been a lot of foot dragging, i think the term from democrats who wanted more faster, given how long ago sandy hit. what hurts politically, in the latest o
MSNBC
Jan 3, 2013 12:00am PST
reason boehner is so testy is a fracture in his own party's leadership. republican leader eric cantor broke ranks with the speaker when the deal came up for a vote. boehner and house budget chairman paul ryan voted for the bill, while cantor and house whip kevin mccarthy voted against it. what does that tell you? president obama needs to move forward with plans to avoid the next fiscal crisis, the debt ceiling. he is not worried about engaging with a fractured gop. the president is going right back to you, the american people. the white house getting after it. put on their website, publishing the facts sheet. what this tax deal is all about. the details were shared on the president's massive e-mail list. the white house also released a video where the president explained his strategy of tax cuts and deficit reduction. >> so instead we're solving this problem in several steps. last year we started reducing the deficit through $1 trillion in spending cuts. and the agreement we reached this week will reduce the deficit even more by asking the wealthiest 2% of americans to pay high
MSNBC
Dec 27, 2012 11:00am PST
would be coming back sunday night at 6:30. again, eric cantor telling folks that the house will be called back sunday evening, 6:30. meanwhile, speaker boehner reportedly told members, quote, his words here, we have done our job. it is now up to the senate to act. we'll see if they do anything. we'll be right back with our gut check. or you can get out there and actually like something. the lexus december to remember sales event is on. this is the pursuit of perfection. >>> a lot going on today and here's some of the things we thought you should know. epa administrator jackson the latest member of the cab note announce she's stepping down next month and ready for new challenges and time with her family. her tenure marked by high profile brawls with industry and congressional republicans over issues of global warming, pollution and of course the keystone oil pipeline. also new controls on coal fired plants, as well. >>> court dwokmentes show mike crapo of utah admitted several shots of vodka before being arrested early sunday in alexandria, virginia. released on $1,000 bond and sche
MSNBC
Jan 3, 2013 7:00am PST
would rather him than eric cantor between them. i don't trust cantor as far as i can throw him. >> is that the prevailing sentiment out there? >> no, i think there's a lot of respect for john boehner and his caucus. it's a develvery difficult caul us lead, especially the way john is doing it today, a lot more open communication with his caucus. it's a less forceful speakership than we've seen from some speakerships in the past but john boehner having come through the ranks sees that as a virtue and i think over time the caucus will respect that. he's going to lose some members here and there, they're going to have some battles but i think there's great respect for him to try to lead all of the disparate factions in the republican party in the house right now and he has done that and he's getting the respect of people like peter king. >> going forward, and you mentioned these three big things, not to mention gun control and immigration that will be on the agenda, there's a suggestion certainly by some democrats that now speaker boehner is going to be more marginalized. the reason is th
MSNBC
Dec 31, 2012 8:00pm PST
john boehner, majority leader eric cantor and kevin mccarty. kathy mcmorris rogers entereded this statement. the house will honor the statement to consider the senate agreement if it is passed. whether the house will rescind or properly amend the measure won't be met until they and the american people can review the legislation. >> what do you think the chance is with both parties not happy with the compromise reached. what do you think the chances are that it will pass, probably in the senate but not run into trouble in the house? >> you heard vice president biden. the white house has put forth a deal and gotten some republicans is in leadership so go along with this. is a big step. we're going to see the republican party rear its ugly head and see how rogue they want to be in going against the majority of americans. very clear. you look at every poll out there protect social security, medicare, medicaid. in this round, that's exactly what the white house did. republicans want to go against that, they have to deal with it in 2014. they want the wealthiest americans to pay for. th
MSNBC
Dec 26, 2012 1:00pm PST
-pong match right now. but really with the senate, john boehner, eric cantor with mccarthy and morris are saying is there are two bills the house passed to deal with the fiscal cliff that are now over the united states senate. if the senate wants to do anything with them, amend them and send them back to the house and perhaps the house will act on it. essentially what boehner is saying is we're not making any moves until the senate amends the two bills we passed over or sends a new one. what are in those bills? well, they essentially extend the bush tax cuts permanently for all earners. and then to avert the sequester and other types of cuts, they make what a lot of liberals have called draconian cuts to meals on wheels, food stamps. it goes into discretionary spending. the house passed bills are absolutely would go nowhere. and would be vee toad by president obama. so this is what we're seeing on the statement the day after christmas is while you guys figure out some solution, we wash our hands of it. >> as a follow-up, i'm putting my press secretary hat on for a second and say the r
MSNBC
Jan 3, 2013 3:00am PST
boehner. nobody thinks that eric cantor is going to be a kinder and gentler face for the republican party. you know, there was palace intrigue. there was quiet movement among conservatives to vacate the chair which means they would have voted against john boehner. and if they got more than 16 to vote against john boehner, then the chair is vacated. you need a majority. and they had the votes, people that were willing to vote against john boehner to take him down as speaker, but then they looked around and said, who's going to replace him? and there was nobody to replace him. so john boehner will continue to be speaker of the house. but there is movement afoot. and they had the votes to do it. they just didn't have anybody to replace him. >> but remember, they've got a constituency problem. a lot of americans care a lot about the second amendment. a lot of americans might want sensible changes in crime control laws but not wholesale changes in the way guns are l regulated. and a handful of congressmen were elected where the president won. they're not a 10% party. they may be a 10% po
MSNBC
Jan 2, 2013 7:00am PST
deal. the top two republicans, speaker john boehner and eric cantor were split. also notable, budget chairman paul ryan voted yes. the final gop count, 151 against the bill and 85 in favor. >> it was all about maintaining, if you will, the status quo of kick the can down the road. >> there's no spending cuts. we're adding $4 billion a day to the debt. the senate will fail miserably in cutting spending. >> much better to make this deal now and move on to those other fights at the appropriate time, which is, by the way, just around the corner. >> some conservative pundits have been blasting republicans and newt gingrich tweeted "the gop has been engauged ged in a two-month dance of defeat and surrender. >> good morning, happy new year. >> good morning. >> happy new year. >> david, do you agree with your former boss? did republicans surrender? >> no, they were just faced with a very difficult choice. obviously in terms of the tax cuts, that's something that if republicans wanted to see go forward, we've been talking about that for years, it was originally a republican proposal but a lot
MSNBC
Jan 1, 2013 5:00am PST
spokeswoman for house majority leader eric cantor tweeted this -- "i'm confused. does potus want a deal or not, because all those jabs at congress certainly sounded like a smack in the face to me." but in the end, will it really have any impact on the vote today? >> i don't think it will on the vote today, but i can tell you that people i talked to after the conference were very upset with it, almost like he spiked the ball after a touchdown, the game wasn't quite over and he should have been flagged for excessive celebration like he's never been in the end zone before. i've always said the leadership is not taking the political shot even when it's easy to, and the president took an easy political shot yesterday, but i don't think it's going to affect the outcome either way. >> and he did draw a line in the sand, there's no doubt about that, chris, but given what is facing both sides, i mean, it's going to be, i think as chuck todd said, you know, this morning, that march is going to be -- if you thought this was bad, wait until you see what's going on in march when we're trying to deal
MSNBC
Dec 28, 2012 2:00pm PST
not willing to run against him. you have big names like eric cantor and kevin mccarthy, number two and three, they're not even making noises about challenging boehner. so i think boehner come next month he's pretty safe even though right now he's having a tough time controlling his caucus. >> not only that, boehner was smart in bringing cantor and mccarthy and paul ryan into the fold when he introduced plan "b." did he that strategically so it looked like a united front. he still got undercut. he will probably be re-elected speaker but he is a much more ineffectual speaker after what happened. >> sam, give me a snap prediction. what do you think the president will say in the briefing room today? >> he's going to wish everyone a happy new year and then say -- i don't know. i have no idea. things are changing by a minute-to-minute basis. i have a guess he will probably say this ball is now in the senate's court. he's going to encourage them to get something done and put the weight of the presidency behind it. >> okay. thanks sam stein and robert costa, appreciate that. >>> coming up,
MSNBC
Dec 26, 2012 3:00am PST
$500,000 on this debate, i think barack obama has a chance to do what eric cantor told bob woodward after he met him the first time, which is if he's pragmatic, if he comes to the middle, then he could lock us republicans up for a very long time. i mean, i think that's the great challenge for barack obama. >> yeah. >> can he do what he appears to be doing right now with john boehner? and that is upsetting a lot of people in his own base for the betterment of their party by saying we're going to raise it from $250,000 to maybe $500,000, go after entitlements and do it for the best interests of the country. >> he is a pragmatist. the first two years, it was such a strained situation. when we talked to him on wednesday, everything he said was about -- he wasn't saying government has to be bigger. government has to be smarter. government has to be better. it was like the lincoln line. this is a fantastic picture, by the way. >> that is adorable. >> joe, that's one of the pictures i was talking about. >> you're letting us know, these are all exclusive to "morning joe." >> they're exclusive to
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Dec 27, 2012 3:00am PST
exceptional to me. and it says, you know, exactly -- >> even though eric cantor was right there probably helping him out? >> but that's the thing is he had eric cantor there, which should have given him the cover. now, you know, at some point john boehner has to make a decision, which is do i let these people dictate what type of legislation we're going to put to this body, or will i get rid of this informal role that anything i let come to a vote has to have the majority of the majority, which means that a majority of republicans have to vote on the bill for it to pass. because that's really the only resolution to this deal is can he -- will he pass a deal that will have a lot of democratic support in the house? >> and is, as i look at next week and the fiscal cliff presumably happening, going over it, john boehner is supposed to be re-elected speaker on next thursday. >> on the 3rd, yeah. >> is that going to change everything and he's going to say, to hell with this right-wing tail wagging my dog, i don't need you guys anymore? >> no, because the house isn't the only theater of this. t
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Jan 2, 2013 3:00am PST
favor of the bill. house majority leader eric cantor and majority whip kevin mccarthy joined the majority of republicans in voting no. however, boehner did find support from his party's former vice presidential candidate, congressman paul ryan. >> bob costa, let me bring you in here. i'm obviously surprisesed th ee the republicans passed tax increases for the first time in 20 years with a bill that doesn't cut a dime in spending, that adds $4 trillion to the national debt, and that actually could have been so much better with a little bit of house leadership going months back, not weeks back, not days back, months back. they knew this day was coming. i've got to believe some conservative members in the house are obviously very concerned about john boehner as their leader. >> sure, but to beat boehner, you have to have a challenger. and last night, joe, i was at the capitol. it was a fascinating scene. i think the paul ryan story is an important baun because boehner's on the ropes. he can't get plan b through the house. he comes over to the house, boehner's trying to find consensu
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